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Ao no Hako - Episode 7 (of 25): Can I Have One

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Subtitles translated using AI by one X/Twitter user as an experiment to confirm that AI is a real option for translation and can maintain context well. They need a little polish here and there, but still the viewing experience is much better than Netflix ones. These are not my subtitles, I just muxed them from New-Raws

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08/11/2024 12:06 — Anonymous

> AI subs

lame

08/11/2024 12:13 — Anonymous

You're one of these people who when they see the word 'AI' the only neuron in their brain activates and they start to hate? Have you even checked this? There were many comparisons available on Twitter with Netflix's translation, and I will honestly say that in every case I would choose AI over what Netflix offers.

08/11/2024 12:24 — Anonymous

AI = Artificial Ignorance

08/11/2024 12:33 — Anonymous

respectfully I'd rather trust a team of fansubbers rather than MTL subs.

AI has use cases, but not for anime or manga translation, sorry.

08/11/2024 12:37 — Anonymous

You're way behind the times lol
Just compare these subs with fansubs that were uploaded.

08/11/2024 12:38 — Anonymous

And don't equate MTL with AI because they are 2 completely different things.

08/11/2024 13:31 — Anonymous

here's why you're wrong [sends a 2 hour livestream of some random Japanese guy talking about AI] you are calling me wrongheaded and yet you're not producing an argument either. I'd rather wait for fan subs over an AI. Simple as.

10/11/2024 00:09 — Anonymous

Yes they are, what the fuck are you talking about?

MTL = Machine Translation
AI = Artificial Intelligence

AI are computers. Computers are machines. Therefore, AI is still machine translation. Not that hard to understand.

08/11/2024 17:34 — Anonymous

These subs are fucking garbage, what are you talking about

08/11/2024 18:22 — Anonymous

I just watched the episode with these subtitles. Honestly, if I hadn't accidentally spotted that AI was used, I never would have realized. Aside from a few sentences that could have been a bit more naturally written and the mistaken gender of a completely side character that wasn't mentioned earlier in one place, everything else is consistent with the Japanese text and it reads really well. I don't know what you mean, but you certainly didn't watch with the subtitles. Compared to what I've seen in Netflix subtitles in past episodes, this is quite an upgrade. Your blind hatred of AI completely blurs your perception of reality.

08/11/2024 18:31 — Anonymous

i just watched these and immediately knew it was ai

08/11/2024 18:34 — Anonymous

Surely.

08/11/2024 18:54 — Anonymous

These subs are terrible.

08/11/2024 19:41 — Anonymous

Surely, Mr. Samefag.
https://ibb.co/album/25NjLT
Here are some examples from a previous episodes. I would choose AI every time without any hesitation.
I don't know what specifically you're trying to achieve with this hate, but if you hate AI so much, I don't think anyone is forcing you to use it? Just stop shitting on releases that don't interest you without any basis. And if you already want to, give some factual arguments and examples. But you won't, because you didn't even watch the episode with those subtitles.

In conclusion - of course it could be better. However, these subtitles were never created for someone to use them as a release, from what I've read. Nevertheless, they are perfect to use as a base and apply minor corrections, possibly typesetting.
That doesn't change the fact that AI can understand the context and construct sentences better from the text itself than Netflix's translators. This is very impressive to me, and unlike you, I can see what a great tool LLMs ALREADY are. And with each month it will only get better.

08/11/2024 23:30 — Anonymous

Your comparisons just prove the point. AI's translations are more stiff and unnatural sounding.

09/11/2024 07:14 — Anonymous

Based on the TLNote example on the right, I think AI is on the right.
The mere fact that AI can add TLNote to subtitles is incredibly promising for the future. Whoever brings back the TLNote trend gets my attention. I don't care if it's fan translators or AI. I will always choose subtitles without localization slop.
And if you really think that the one on the right is “unnatural and shit” then you just have shit taste. Literally everything on the right agrees with the Japanese text, while that on the left is not only often lacking in important information, but also changes the way characters express themselves effectively changing their perception.
If the AI is already this good now, and only needs minor adjustments by humans, I'll be watching with pure delight as the AI takes the work away from these crappy translators.

09/11/2024 12:44 — Anonymous

Not reading all of that Also, you're wrong.

09/11/2024 14:13 — Anonymous

I'd trust a crappy translator over your automated garbage. Fan subbers do god's work, unlike you.

Every translator worth their salt has done more to keep anime alive than some random freak with an AI program. Pick up a book on Japanese why don't you. You guys will just make anime piracy worse, not better.

09/11/2024 15:28 — Anonymous

I have been a fansubber in my local language for 15 years. I know Japanese at the N2 level. My friends and I have been using AI for a year and then just correcting any imperfections and doing typesetting. The result is identical than if we did it from scratch. Meanwhile, we save at least half the time by doing this.

You have no idea what you're typing about and you're acting like people who were afraid of tractors when they first entered the fields. It's really funny.

09/11/2024 16:27 — Anonymous

That's funny, because I have read MULTIPLE interviews and comments from translators where they all said "yeah AI is so shit that it's literally faster to translate from scratch than have to fix all of the mistakes in its output"

09/11/2024 16:34 — Anonymous

Everyone can just make up shit like that on the spot
"fansubber in my local language for 15 years. I know Japanese at the N2 level"
sure buddy and I'm N1 with 20 years of fansubbing experience, I also slept with your mother

09/11/2024 17:37 — Anonymous

"I have been a fansubber in my local language for 15 years." me when I lie for internet clout

09/11/2024 17:58 — Anonymous

there is a substantive and clear difference between using AI to "correct imperfections" for something you've translated almost entirely by yourself. and just being a lazy hack and using AI to translate the entire thing from the get-go. I don't care if the results are identical or not, I would trust the process and go about fansubbing the orthodox way than making excuses for short-cuts and shoddy work. Also you're lying and nobody believes you for a second

09/11/2024 19:42 — Anonymous

So if I threw the script into Google Translate and then just added some asspulled TL notes you'd automatically prefer the Google Translate subs because you like seeing TL notes on screen?

09/11/2024 22:14 — Anonymous

I think that's what a lot of people actually want. Theyre just lying to themselves

09/11/2024 04:06 — Anonymous

This dude is a yapper.

08/11/2024 21:28 — Anonymous

glad someone gets it. these subs suck, people have too low of standards. either leave the work to actual translators/fan subbers or just learn Japanese lol

08/11/2024 12:51 — Anonymous

https://youtube.com/watch?v=viAwzGse4L8
Watch this, because your knowledge was already outdated a year ago.

AI and MTL are two different worlds.

MTL in a best case scenario can translate a sentence correctly, although it often comes out wrong and sounds terrible.

AI takes into account the entire context, including from previous episodes. It translates in the style it is instructed to, and can do proofreading and editing.

The world is changing a lot. As recently as 2-3 years ago, I would have said the same thing as you.
But not here and now.

08/11/2024 16:15 — Anonymous

"AI takes into account the entire context, including from previous episodes. It translates in the style it is instructed to, and can do proofreading and editing." Yes, let's just ignore human translators or the work of fan subbers who've kept anime piracy alive since its inception. If you want an AI to do your work, then I don't think your interested in actually doing the labour needed to make decent translations, I think you just want an easy-out for whatever agenda you're pushing. Also, this is all very opaque, it's not like I can see under the hood and see how these translations are actually being developed.

If AI becomes good enough to take your day job, I don't think you guys would be making the same argument. But then again, it's not that far long.

08/11/2024 16:35 — Anonymous

AI subs? are you telling me to use AI to translate scripts? I don't think that's a good idea. However, I also hear that you can "train" AI so it can "learn". Do you think AI subs will be decent someday? We'll see.

08/11/2024 21:32 — Anonymous

I don't want AI slop translations, period. But if you're an AI advocate shitheel and AI takes your job, I think it'd be karmic punishment. I could care less.

09/11/2024 06:48 — Anonymous

Exactly what I thought. That's why I said it's not a good idea. I'm not defending AI. Just leaving me 2 cents here.

09/11/2024 06:56 — Anonymous

AI subs still shitty these days. But who knows what they'll become in 5 years. Why are you so fixated on AI taking over jobs? is that coming from personal experience or something? I'm genuinely curious.

09/11/2024 07:27 — Anonymous

Can you elaborate?

08/11/2024 17:41 — Anonymous

Is AI going to magically understand newly-formed vocabulary and slang? Is AI going to know how to refer to the original source material if it needs to? Is AI going to also accurately typeset and translate on-screen signs instead of just piping through the audio or Japanese closed captions file as the bare minimum?

AI is still shit at doing translations for anime/TV shows. And it certainly doesn't help that the vast majority of people who use it to shit out "fansubs" are indians who don't know a lick of Japanese and barely know English either. They literally have NO way of being able to check the work the AI puts out because they don't know either language they are trying to work in.

08/11/2024 19:01 — Anonymous

^

Still waiting on your response. These are the fatal flaws of AI translation and it amuses me that the people defending AI translation have suddenly gone silent.

08/11/2024 19:53 — Anonymous

Nothing you mentioned actually matters.

1 The reference to the source has absolutely no significance. What is being translated is the adaptation, not the source. Many things in the adaptation may be changed.

2. Modern slang basically never has any use in anime or manga. In addition, publicly available commercial LLMs (GPT, Claude etc) have datasets no older than a year. If you watched the video what someone posted above (the one from Sora, dude is a professional English-Japanese translator and quite a popular youtuber, I assure you he has enough knowledge to judge what he's talking about) you'd see that not only there is no problem with slang, but also with dialects or even colloquial, formal and internet speech.

3 Typesetting is most often a purely aesthetic issue (not counting a few specific series). This thing is to be taken care of by a person. For me personally, nothing else than translating the most important things from the characters at the top of the screen is necessary.

08/11/2024 23:28 — Anonymous

>Nothing you mentioned actually matters.

Alright, that's all I needed to hear from you. Congrats on publicly showing you have no idea what you're talking about.

09/11/2024 14:15 — Anonymous

AI translations suck, get a real job freak

09/11/2024 15:19 — Anonymous

I'm pretty ambivalent if it comes to AI translations, but man. If you want to be treated seriously, at least use some arguments to defend your statement. Like, I don't know, examples with argumentation why human would do it better?
Translation is a pure technical job. Translator is not a poet or writer.
I see no reason why AI without bias and properly prompted wouldn't be able to do it in future reliably.

08/11/2024 12:58 — Anonymous

As long as the fansubbers are not the ones who subbed Girls' Band Cry. Those fansubs were garbage.

08/11/2024 17:50 — Anonymous

I'm assuming you were watching the MTL with some shitty memes thrown in. SobsPlease and NakayubiSubs were human-translated and were both very good quality.

Q 08/11/2024 20:04 — Anonymous

LeMeme subs of GBC was MTL-ed from the official french ADN simulcast and maliciously sprinkled with memes, like "If you quit now, it's joever!" (However, genocide Joe did quit in real life a few weeks later.)
There was also a GBC fansub war between the human translators of Nakayubi and SobsPlease, over two short but crucial phrases in episode 8. "Kokuhaku" means confession but whether it's a romantic, religious, criminal one or just Weezer is up for interpretation...
Watching the various GBC fansubs as soon as they appeared added tremendously to enjoyment of this excellent series. (I think Nakayubi was best but it's incompletel, lacking the first 2 or 3 eps.)

09/11/2024 20:31 — Anonymous

Let me join in, you are fucking donkies, of course AI will get better and the Fan sub shit whaterver club will get tired of translating. Every thing has its pros and cons, and even with AI translating, will have times that it will be corrected by some random dude in some hardcore fan club or some shit like that. There are countless episodes of animes that got translated based on what the translator thought it was the best adaptation of the idea or just folowing some personal belive, and of course there is the AI tranlation the sounds wired and do not relate to the idea of what is showning on the screen. But in the end we just want to get some free stuff with the best quality.

09/11/2024 21:14 — Anonymous

Speak English

08/11/2024 20:11 — Anonymous

Truth be told, Blue Box is so cliched in every aspect even computers can translate it perfectly. That's not worth quarreling over.
What we should discuss seriously is why japanese animation industry continues to produce such cliched output even in the post-Aobuta / Bokuyaba / Garukura era. They have been shown what inspired storywriting, interesting characters and great visuals really mean, yet they continue to produce 99% garbage.

09/11/2024 07:22 — Anonymous

AI subs are not proper subs. Stop defending AI translations. If you think AI subs are good that's because you simply don't speak the language.

09/11/2024 07:52 — Anonymous

Of course, you know both languages and are able to judge that this translation is bad, right? Then I'm waiting for examples, because I'm curious. But specific examples which are objectively mistranslation, not general 'AI bad source:my ass' examples.

09/11/2024 13:37 — Anonymous

I've watched the whole thing and compiled all translation issues: https://animetosho.org/storage/attachp...chments.7z

09/11/2024 14:55 — Anonymous

You had a chance proving that you're right.
But really, I expected nothing less from person like you.
Keep hating lfmao

09/11/2024 13:35 — Anonymous

I've never seen so many brain dead people in one comment section, congratulations
Fuck AI

09/11/2024 14:11 — Anonymous

you actively want worse translations, fuck off man

if you want to be coddled by an AI, go ahead but don't force your mediocrity on everyone else.

09/11/2024 14:49 — Anonymous

"Fuck AI"
"if you want to be coddled by an AI, go ahead but don't force your mediocrity on everyone else."
found the retard

09/11/2024 17:46 — Anonymous

You're actively ruining piracy by infecting all the sites with your shitty AI subs. Fuck off. I don't want to torrent this garbage, I'd rather wait for fansubs or the official translation. It's rich that anon is saying this when they're probably some cracker with a room temp IQ. You ever learned Japanese, pal? You ever picked up a book? People like you are scum of the Earth. How many shows have you preserved?

09/11/2024 17:48 — Anonymous

Anon is trying to say you can have your fun but nobody wants to torrent your shit

09/11/2024 14:58 — Anonymous

Pretty fucking bold saying this in times where fansubs are filled by troons and uber xenophobes and official translations are more and more infected with wokenism.
You know, I'd agree with you if we were in 2009 when fansubs were done by actual fans for fans. Not today.

09/11/2024 16:20 — Anonymous

You are confusing subs with dubs, retard.

09/11/2024 16:34 — Anonymous

GJM's discord is full of women hating troons

09/11/2024 16:52 — Anonymous

>Discord server

Yeah I wonder why

10/11/2024 06:59 * — smol

Can confirm there's a GJM admin who banned me for "transphobia" because I called a trans "person" (TL note: a freak who keeps sexualizing their wife in public) who's been posting very questionable stuff, an autogynephile, *in another Discord server*; and apparently that was grounds for a ban on GJM. I wouldn't go as far as saying "GJM is full of..." because it's really only a handful and generalizing the entire trans community because of a few bad apples is not fair. I don't know if I would've been treated differently had I been trans myself or AMAB but there's definitely some serious women hatred in there.

10/11/2024 23:12 — Anonymous

They probably don't actually have a wife. It's probably made up just like their gender

09/11/2024 17:13 — Anonymous

kys transphobe

09/11/2024 19:48 — Anonymous

The whole transgender thing is mostly just an effect of mental health issues/autism spectrum disorder, anyways. Rather than unconditionally let people mess with their own bodies in the name of "being inclusive and accepting", we should be focusing on more mental health support, to understand why they believe that pretending to be another gender is going to magically solve all of their problems, and give them other avenues of supporting their mental health

09/11/2024 20:45 — Anonymous

^this
And it shows in their mentality too unfortunately.

10/11/2024 18:04 — Anonymous

its funny to say this, as if being a weeb doesn't constitute some degree of mental illness lmao

10/11/2024 18:15 — Anonymous

I don't think simply watching anime in my spare time means I am mentally ill.

At least I'm not injecting hormones into my body, dressing up like a woman, and getting breast implants and expecting everyone to call me a real woman and let me into the woman's bathrooms.

10/11/2024 20:01 — Anonymous

this level of denial is crazy, we all know you're a degenerate. Criticizing people's lifestyle choices when it's not your business is rich when like the majority of weebs do jerk off to hentai doujins. You're not special for hating trans people, you are just as perverted and as creepy as the people you criticize, if anything it's projection.

10/11/2024 20:47 — Anonymous

LOL, "transgender" is NOT a life choice, is a mental illness. Would you say that psychotic people or diabetes, asthma are life choices? No, some are phisical and others are mental. Moreover if you want to mutilate your genitals and live like that, you clary have a problem. Please seek help.

11/11/2024 08:52 — Anonymous

Why are you so obsessed with my genitiles? Are you a pervert?

10/11/2024 23:00 — Anonymous

>Criticizing people's lifestyle choices when it's not your business is rich

And yet here you are, calling people who watch anime mentally ill.

11/11/2024 08:54 — Anonymous

Wow, here comes the whining. Don't like what you heard? I said it takes some degree of mental illness to like anime. You all could be autistis with special interests or closeted homosexuals, no shame about it? Why are you upset? I know like 80% of you guys love shotacon and want to have little boys be your servants like you're a Roman emperor. It's very rich to criticize trans people, anime fans are no better. You're not special.

10/11/2024 23:07 — Anonymous

Troon spotted, go back to Twitter. Sorry I mean bluesky

10/11/2024 23:15 — Anonymous

Who said I hated them? I simply feel sorry for them, as the medical system clearly failed them. The doctors they went to chose to entertain their delusions brought on by their deep underlying mental issues rather than give them proper help.

11/11/2024 08:56 — Anonymous

We got a late trimester abortion here trying to dictate people's lives. If only your mother made the right decision and took a pill. The medical system clearly failed your degenerate mother. Were you born out of wedlock? Or was she a whore?

09/11/2024 17:39 — Anonymous

"we're not pushing an agenda, we just want good subs" and then the AI sub advocate comes out and says it. exactly what I'm talking about. Go learn Japanese, you backwater cretin.

09/11/2024 20:44 — Anonymous

I don't know about the guy you were replying to, but I'm learning Japanese. In fact, I can watch most series entirely in Japanese if Japanese subtitles are available. I can say in all honesty that these AI subtitles (at least the specific ones mentioned here - I don't know what kind of witchcraft the creator of these used, other subtitles done by AI didn't even come close to the level presented here) are much better than the ones Netflix has given, so it's a major upgrade, so I don't understand your (and other AI haters') whining. Why don't you learn Japanese yourself, then you'll see that you're the cretin here?

09/11/2024 21:28 — Anonymous

I'm also learning japanese and every single time I MTL'd (GPT 4) japanese CCs I got the most robotic, stiff, unnatural, and at time straight up wrong subtitles imaginable. AI isn't there yet and blaming prosubbers isn't the way to go either. OP and all of his split personalities need to quiet the fuck down.

09/11/2024 22:02 — Anonymous

GPT4 is not a good model for translation for many reasons. It doesn't keep context, gets lost in longer texts, and often hallucinates.
There are much better options for translation and programming. Like Claude 3.5. In addition, the prompt to translate can't just be “translate this from language A to language B.” Oh hell no. You need to specify exactly how you want the translation to look, how it should treat proper names, you need to clearly specify that it should keep the whole thing natural-sounding, and ask it to do proofreading after translation.
Of course, the subject is more complex than what I wrote. I have tried to translate various things (such as movies for the family). Claude can take, for example, the entire script from Aegisub and translate it as a whole while preserving the syntax of that standard, that way he also knows the whole context, not just individual lines. There are different techniques, for example, you can ask him to take notes after each episode and then for the next episode you include those notes. This helps maintain the continuity of the story, the phrases used, etc.
AI is already ready for translations. It's just that GPT4 is no longer a good model, especially for programming and translation.
Though, I have not yet been able to achieve such good results as these subtitles above, but I am convinced that it is just a matter of the right prompt.
AI haters are really half-wits.

09/11/2024 22:21 — Anonymous

I've used Claude 3.5 and it's shit. Not sure what you're on about. I've attempted to use AI for my own translating and fan-subbing purposes and it's only come out worse when I've inputting scripts and compared notes. AI isn't good enough for translating anime, it's still very crude and infantile. I'd rather trust my fansubbing colleagues than Claude. Please go learn Japanese instead. It's a better investment.

09/11/2024 22:29 — Anonymous

Claude? You mean the model that never actually lets your prompt through and always bitches about being "over-capacity" even if you've paid for it?

09/11/2024 22:31 — Anonymous

Also the model that is arguably more censored and anal about "ethics" than GPT is, and is much more likely to shut down and refuse to help you.

09/11/2024 21:59 — Anonymous

I am fluent in JP and I can tell you 100% that AI is shit at TL.

09/11/2024 22:16 — Anonymous

anyone whos anon can claim they can speak fluent Japanese. This doesnt mean much on here. Even if you're right and the translation is shit nobody will believe you anyway, theres a lot of cope going on here about AI.

09/11/2024 22:23 — Anonymous

I speak 4 languages and am a major fansub contributor myself so I'm not sure where you get the balls to lecture me. AI will never be good enough to translate anime. Fuck off.

10/11/2024 20:50 — Anonymous

I also speak 4 and i am learning my 5 language. I am a big part of "fansub club make up shit". And i can tell you that AI will dominate all anime translations "subs and voice". So eat shit.

11/11/2024 08:58 — Anonymous

The only person eating shit is you.

Also I actually am part of a fansubbing community, not sure what your problem is? Not everyone is an illiterate retard like you. Go pick up a book. Oh but you can't, you can't read. Poor thing.

09/11/2024 18:21 — Anonymous

How it feels to not care and pray for total ai death

09/11/2024 21:17 — Rinkawa

Seems people are hating AI all for the wrong reasons.

09/11/2024 21:24 — Anonymous

what are the right reasons?

09/11/2024 21:54 — Anonymous

The right reasons*

09/11/2024 22:24 — Anonymous

AI has no business translating anime. I'd rather have fansubbers keep anime piracy alive, than let a shitty translation become the norm on torrent sites.

09/11/2024 23:41 — Anonymous

Nobody, cares for your nosense. What are you going to do fight AI? There is no going back and you will see more and more of animes using AI for translation. So you can just sit in a corner and cry.

09/11/2024 23:45 — Anonymous

I wank to real porn every day

10/11/2024 00:06 — Anonymous

The only people who are excited for AI translations are:
- turbo autistic "god damn woke burgerified localization official subs!!! i want literal translations, all romaji names, honorifics, and TL notes plastered on screen every 3 seconds!!!"
- ESLs like you who don't know English or Japanese who seem to really fucking love shitty English subtitles, constantly use MTL tools to shit them out, and release them, unironically having such a low bar for quality and thus thinking they are good enough for everyone, even fluent English speakers

10/11/2024 11:41 — Anonymous

"The only people who are excited for AI translations are:
- turbo autistic "god damn woke burgerified localization official subs!!! i want literal translations, all romaji names, honorifics, and TL notes plastered on screen every 3 seconds!!!"
- ESLs like you who don't know English or Japanese who seem to really fucking love shitty English subtitles, constantly use MTL tools to shit them out, and release them, unironically having such a low bar for quality and thus thinking they are good enough for everyone, even fluent English speakers"

tell em

10/11/2024 17:49 — Anonymous

Based and spot-on.

09/11/2024 21:50 — Anonymous

@admin Does this torrent have the most comments on AT?

09/11/2024 22:18 — Anonymous

@admin please remove all AI torrents from Tosho. If people want to find this shit they can go to the original source. Tosho needs higher standards. Update your FAQ

09/11/2024 22:22 — Anonymous

You're a true moron lmao.
But if something like this would get removed than I demand that dub torrents would be removed as well.

09/11/2024 22:27 — Anonymous

ban AI translations, AI upscales, 60/144/240/600FPS interpolated video, and memesubs

09/11/2024 22:30 — Anonymous

They would need to ban almost all remaining fansubs that left then lol

10/11/2024 20:05 — Anonymous

AI translations are mostly bad. If you want to spoon fed Japanese, you can always pick up a book

AI upscales are almost always shit

60fps interpolations are stupid, and ruins the viewing quality of most anime

weird to bat for memesubs when half of you throw a fit over burgerified official subs

10/11/2024 11:40 — Anonymous

Yameii has done more to keep anime piracy alive than you ever have in your entire pathetic life

09/11/2024 23:36 — Anonymous

@admin It is good as it is. No need to listen to htis 15yo moron that lives in his parents. If he whants he can sort it out it self.

09/11/2024 22:34 — Anonymous

I don't think this was the longest... but at least it kept to being somewhat intelligent instead of Admin resorting to deleting inappropriate posts.

09/11/2024 22:37 — Anonymous

Don't worry, give it time.

10/11/2024 04:07 — Anonymous

150 posts of 2 or 3 people arguing whether fans subs or Ai subs are better? I wouldn't call that intelligent at all. More like idiotic. There is no point to it and they couldve each made one posts each instead of arguing over something stupid. None of the subbers don't give a rats ass what a couple of idiots have to save about subs here. Theyed difinitely fit in the crazy poltical forums ... 100s over posts saying literally nothing.

10/11/2024 15:16 — Anonymous

I blame the uploader, AI wouldn't be so stigimatized if it was actually useful but in most cases its not

L 10/11/2024 04:05 — Anonymous

Babe wake up, grab your tea n biscuit someone commented on animeitosho!

10/11/2024 16:50 — Anonymous

Baby, I'll bring the coffee, there are more stupid comments.

10/11/2024 20:05 — Anonymous

choose a side or fuck off. AI is here to stay.

10/11/2024 22:58 — Anonymous

AI is going to fade out when people wake up and realize how shit it is at literally everything.

11/11/2024 02:20 — Anonymous

You apparently lack high level intelligence or at least aren't very knowledgeable of the current business technology . Ai is shit at everything? well you might want to take a look at Watson, Open Ai, Anthopic, Databricks, etc. . These companies are bringing in billions. There are a lot more startups bringing in millions already. So that alone makes your statement dead wrong. You might want to get out of your moms basement and learn about the real world or at least read a little about current technology. Just like there are more and more smart devices Ai is here to stay and just like smart devices Ai will be in all our lives at some point whether we like it or not unless you want to move to the sticks. I mean fuck we even have smart light bulbs now. I could live without it because I'm an outdoors guy and would prefer to live in a home the woods cut off from society but doctor permanently fucked up my back nearly crippling me so that dream is no longer a possibility for me so since I cant escape it I embrace it. My cousin does have a lot of land deep in the woods though so I do have some place to go when I need an escape.

11/11/2024 02:36 * — Anonymous

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11/11/2024 07:26 — Anonymous

New-raws was mentioned, New-raws is not a reliable site doesn't provide sources

11/11/2024 07:53 — Anonymous

I wasn't part of this argument earlier. I made two posts. Calling this conversation idiotic because it was like 150 posts long over Ai subbing and this last one about Ai making billions.
I'm not reading all those comments but what little I did read were the argument over machine translation and Ai translation being different. Are they though? From what I'm reading they are basically the same thing.
IBM`s Watson is currently the smartest Ai in the world and a few of its capabilities are machine learning and machine translation and is capable of translating almost any language perfectly. I doubt its being used in subbing anime but who knows since the American media market has now embraced anime. IBM is making a killing in the finance, medical, and sports, fields to name a few with Watson so I guess its possible they could implement into movie and tv subbing if its profitable enough.
Text below is straight from IBM website about machine learning.

"The easiest way to think about AI, machine learning, deep learning and neural networks is to think of them as a series of AI systems from largest to smallest, each encompassing the next."

AI is the overarching system. Machine learning is a subset of AI. Deep learning is a subfield of machine learning."

Basically what its stating Machine learning and machine translation are something Ai does so I don't get the entire argument that was made of them being different.
I do understand peoples hesitation between human subbing or Ai. Humans in general are resistant to change. We are creatures of habit. If any of you care to research these super-smart computers some of them are already capable of perfect translation including slang. Watson definitely is but that doesn't mean all the Ai computers are as capable.

I haven't watched this version. Ive been using subsplease. I'm not going to re-watch it with these subs but some of you that have are saying this translation is terrible. I will take your word for it However I don't see why this created so much bitching. The uploader stated it was done as an experiment. If you don't want to take part in the experiment why bother watching this version at all if its upsetting you? They have to experiment with real world tests whatever to make Ai better and to fix the flaws so it learns better and produces better results. I would be interested in knowing what AI was used. More than likely it was probably one of the newer startup companies.

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