[SubDESU] To Love-Ru Trouble - Darkness OVA - 01 (DVD 720x480 x264 AAC) [A6D2EA49].mkv

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[SubDESU] To Love-Ru Trouble - Darkness OVA - 01 (DVD 720x480 x264 AAC) [A6D2EA49].mkv

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Date Submitted	20/08/2012 02:46
Series (!)	To Love-Ru: Trouble - Darkness OAD
Comment	Now no-scaled right from DVD.

File Name (Size)	[SubDESU] To Love-Ru Trouble - Darkness OVA - 01 (DVD 720x480 x264 AAC) [A6D2EA49].mkv (257.2 MB)
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Subtitles	#1: eng [ASS]

13 comment(s):

05/09/2013 22:22 — Anonymous

Is there a higher resolution for this using the same subs? another download I found for this one a long time that does have a higher resolution has piss poor translation on it like it was done in google. >_<

05/09/2013 22:29 — Anonymous

DVD, this is best resolution you will get, everything with hiegher res is just upscaled

06/09/2013 00:39 * — Gurphy_TC

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If you still have that earlier download and it used softsubs you can use these softsubs instead.  Just click under the preview pictures where it says "#1: eng [ASS]", and chose to download the file.  Place it in the same directory as the earlier download and rename it the same as that download except use the suffix  .ass

So if you had Otherfile.mkv, you would then have Otherfile.mkv and Otherfile.ass in the same directory.  Most video players will then associate these new subs with that file automatically when you played the mkv or allow you to choose them.  The content of the videos has to be identical for the timing of the new subs to match up, which shouldn't be a problem in this case.  The size of the subs might also have to be manually adjusted for best viewing when different resolutions are involved, but such flexibility is part of what makes softsubs so great.
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I haven't compared versions myself yet, but by reputation this AT link for Pomf-Subs most likely has the best translation and subtitles for this show:

https://animetosho.org/view/pomf-love-...kv.n343667

"Pomf" is a joint project by FFF and Rori.

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The highest native resolution for this show would be 576p if you had an enhanced Japanese DVD, as this group possibly did:

https://animetosho.org/view/shi0n-love...va.n363683

At least Nyaa didn't kill their torrent, either because an e-DVD exists or Nyaa wasn't sure.  Nyaa might even allow that much up-scaling just to avoid the hassle of tracking down sources.  But I haven't found shi0n-subs translations to be --well, here's their release note:

"actually this subs were 3 times reviewed by me, since this show was so stimulating, I can't concentrate much on it."

--It's hard to pack so many grammatical errors into so few words, so I wouldn't have high hopes for that production.  But I hate to complain about free stuff.

As I recall, SubDESU tried to release a 720p pixel-upscaled version of this show but Nyaa kept killing their torrents of it.  SubDESU thought it looked good upscaled, but Nyaa doesn't allow it.  Hence the SubDESU comment above, "Now no-scaled right from DVD".  From Nyaa's point of view, it would be harder to identify new stuff from re-hashed old stuff if they allowed pixel-upscaling, I guess.  Some people think pixel-upscaling just inflates file sizes, some people think it looks better than lower native resolutions.  Some people think it looks worse.  Personal preference.

06/09/2013 00:50 — Anonymous

576p is an upscale too, and there is no point in upscaling to 720p because your pc/hw decoder can do it too
it wasn't killed because 480p to 576p is an acceptable upscale while scaling it to 720p is not, the same way most the 1080p BDs are upscales while 720p BDs often are downscaled

06/09/2013 01:13 — Galaxy_Defenders

1. So you've checked with the company and can verify that no e-DVD was released after the initial DVD, or you know shi0n's sources?  Ok, that's good to know.  These companies are so good at making little 'must-have' upgrades.
2. What makes any pixel-upscaling "acceptable" or "unacceptable"?  It doesn't create any new data.  If it's aesthetics then there is no right answer.
3. On non-Movie BD's --I haven't been keeping up on studio practices.  Is there still a standard they all work to in-house these days, like 960p or whatever it used to be?  I assume that's what you were referring to?

06/09/2013 01:29 — Anonymous

1. yes he used share-raws and there is no "eDVD" of it afaik (nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=344122)
2. don't know the technical details as to why, just stating standard nyaa practice, ie 576p upscales won't get removed while 720p will (talking about DVDs)
3. yes

i really would like to see a list of anime released on "eDVD", pretty sure it is short if even mentionable :p

06/09/2013 01:45 — Anonymous

Was a hard sub so that's a no go. plus I already deleted the file since the translation was so bad.

06/09/2013 02:08 — Anonymous

DVD
PAL (Europe/Japan) 576i
NTSC (NA) 480i

06/09/2013 03:57 — admin

Actually, Japan uses NTSC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC

I don't know whether PAL releases are usually based off NTSC video (from what I can guess, they usually are), but I've actually rarely seen PAL DVDs have more than 480p (i/p whatever, generally doesn't make a difference for anime) "real" resolution. I've also seen a number of instances where the PAL release didn't do a proper IVTC and in general looks worse than the NTSC version.
For this reason, I'd generally prefer NTSC DVDs over PAL for anime.

06/09/2013 05:17 * — alpeia2

Two things come to mind with conveting NTSC to PAL.
1 - With cell animation a majority was done at 15 fps to cut costs/time and they doubled each frame to make 30 fps (I don't know if they do this with CG).
2 - NTSC is 30 fps (29.97) and PAL is 25 fps. To achieve this they combine 2 frames into one (every 4th & 5th frame if I remember correctly).

06/09/2013 10:22 — admin

I'm not sure what was common back in the days of cell animation, but video/film is often mastered at 23.976fps (aka ~24fps), and you'll find that most rips (including this one) will be done at that framerate.
Anime, at least these days, is typically done at around 8~12fps, with stuff like pans getting the more fluid 24fps.

Your description of combining the 4th and 5th frame into one (aka decimating every 5th frame) brings 29.97fps to 23.976fps. This is often done if the film -> NTSC conversion is done by duplicating every 4th frame. To convert to PAL, you'd probably do a ~4% speedup to get 25fps. I don't know whether this is typically done though.

(note, the great thing about video is the huge number of "standards", or lack thereof in certain cases, so how things are done vary. I also have never looked at an NTSC DVD, as I am in a PAL region, so I don't really know how frame rate conversions are often handled)

06/09/2013 11:28 — Anonymous

Ah, my mistake, Europe and Japan are both in "Region 2", that's why i grouped them into PAL, haha thanks for pointing it out.

06/09/2013 04:40 — Anonymous

PAL DVDs can run at 720x576 progressive via component cable and it looks decent enough . It really depends on how many episodes are squashed onto each dvd though.

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