[Commie] Devil Survivor 2 The Animation - 13 [EB09E784].mkv


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Date Submitted03/07/2013 10:26
SeriesDevil Survivor 2 The Animation - Episode 13 (of 13): Sunday of Realization - II
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File Name (Size)[Commie] Devil Survivor 2 The Animation - 13 [EB09E784].mkv (589.2 MB)
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38 comment(s):
03/07/2013 11:10 — bakabeta
isnt it some kind of joke????
03/07/2013 11:11 — Anonymous
The anime? Yes, yes it is.
03/07/2013 11:15 — bakabeta
no man i was talking about size!!!!
03/07/2013 11:22 — Anonymous
Lots of things going on with the fight between Hibiki and Yamato, but this isn't the only file that surpassed 500MB.
03/07/2013 11:54 — bakabeta
horriblesubs 720p avrg 350mb!!!!
i finished it watching too hibiki was looking like a noob!! when he was crying in the end....Gross!!!!
03/07/2013 12:03 — Anonymous
That's just CR's video fixed file size.
03/07/2013 12:45 — bakabeta
does it matter i mean horrible subs is better in certain cases!!!
03/07/2013 13:00 — Anonymousccccc
yes it does, CR is run by idiots, video quality is shit
03/07/2013 14:51 — bakabeta
i downloaded a 480p video 188mb in size and anime was saki achiga hen loli show quality wasnt all that bad better that a destiny and anime-koi
03/07/2013 19:04 — Anonymous
480p.....
04/07/2013 10:24 — bakabeta
848x480!
04/07/2013 10:44 — Yogicat
Nyahaha! #FelineYogi@irc.rizon.net
more like 848*480 anamorphic 16:9, i.e. 854*480
04/07/2013 11:08 — bakabeta
yeah smthing like that!!!!
03/07/2013 16:35 — zooby
@bakabeta Crunchyroll's video sizes are somewhat static because they aren't encoded by CRF. They're encoded by bitrate. 480p is 768 720p is 1776 and 1080i is 3072 or something like that.
03/07/2013 16:51 — bakabeta
i dont know what you mean by CFR but i get bitrate thing
Well never tried chrunghyroll roll hows their sizes and qualities???
03/07/2013 17:03 — zooby
Crunchyroll is a streaming site. Quality is alright. You can't please everyone though. I'd say most of the time, encodes from TV rips (on fansub sites) are better. It doesn't matter too much to me because I buy a lot of the anime I like.

Here's what CRF is pretty much, http://slhck.info/crf.html
03/07/2013 17:14 — bakabeta
nor to me i just get 720p and 480p since neither i have that much money nor storage space......
CRF its just fps.....so silly  
03/07/2013 18:50 * — alpeia2
No. CRF is not fps (frames per second) it is a intelligent compression algorithm for moving pictures based on how the human brain perceives it.
It compairs one frame to another and if something is in motion it will use more compression. If nothing is moving then it uses less compression.
The higher the CRF rate the smaller the file size will be at a cost of image quality. The smaller the CRF rate the better the image quality will be at a cost of file size.
03/07/2013 19:17 — bakabeta
oh i see so.......i had SAO from commie and utwoots size was like commie 220-330mb utwoots 500mb+ the difference was more lighting in video(that makes video alive) and the sub was animated  
CRF must be the reason though
there are some people like this 'one of my best friend pisses me off he downloads 40mb videos from anime44 via idm'
03/07/2013 17:22 — Anonymous
File size: Almost the whole story in plain English (Do you really want to know?):

1. When encoding you can either pre-set the file size and take the quality you get, or aim for a certain level of video quality and take the file size it requires.  Fansubs mostly go for the quality and take the file size that it requires.  Horrible is mostly automated with general preset values and not monitored.  That's why the wrong show sometimes comes out under a different show's name, and why he can put out a ton of shows each season.

2. Picture one minute of animation showing a chess game from one set viewpoint.  Picture one minute of animation showing a roller-coaster ride from the view of a rider.  It takes a lot more data to show all the action and dynamic scenes of the roller-coaster ride.  A big file can mean you're in for some great video action.  (The occasional exception: Unspectacular special effects, like grain or imitation old-time film scratches or such.  In Campione, for example, a kind of grain is used to separate an altered reality from the normal scenes.  Nylarko does the same thing more efficiently with a sun that splits in 3 and altered colors, not that anime makers are worried about our download issues.)

3. There are no correct answers for file size versus quality.  Instead, we all have different needs or preferences for quality or file size.  Some have low bandwidth or metered service or smaller screens they usually watch on.  Some have the opposite.  You just have to find what suits your needs best.

4. The translations or script modifications are the real value from the fansubs.  Encoding skills can be learned quickly.  Language and translation skills cannot.  You won't have great stories or interesting characters without good subtitles.  See who tells the story best for you, then find a video option with those subtitles.
03/07/2013 17:53 * — bakabeta
lets drop it here
i am downloading b!ble  at sucking speed 15~20KBps....lol
03/07/2013 19:22 — alpeia2
Don't forget colour. It is the major contrubitor to file size. HD resolution is 1920X1080 per frame which is 2,073,600 pixels. Each pixel is made up of 3 colour values Red, Green & Blue for a total of 6,220,800 pixels and that is just one frame and I'm not including the Y channel. With that each colour channel pixel has a value from 0 to 255 depending on the colour of that pixel. Black = 0,0,0 while white = 255,255,255 and everything else is inbetween. Thus the more detail the larger the file size. If there is a lot of white, again larger size. This is why the file size jumps up when film grain is used.
04/07/2013 02:21 — bakabeta
amazing i nvr knew white colour makes size bigger i used to thought it dont even net data to show white page i mean no details no edit no dara...lol
04/07/2013 02:56 — Anonymous
I don't want to say out loud I don't think that's true, so what I will note is that for encodes --data reductions-- the big factors are the repeated values, the irreducible information and how average values are arrived at.   Raw data is an entirely different matter.  Grain is a problem because there are so many unique and therefore irreducible values, unless you just dump the grain data.
04/07/2013 03:21 — Anonymous
Also, I don't like to correct people, but you seem to be saying that 255, 255, 255 takes up more file space than 0,0,0.  It's an interesting error to make.  Remember what 8-bit digital color is:It is color channels defined by "yes" or "no" answers to 8 questions.  Every color value in a channel from 0 to 255 requires the same 8 yes or no values (1 and 0, that is).  10-bit color asks 10 binary questions, and so on.  Within any specific color scheme, a color value of say "3" does not take up any less file space than a color value of say "200".  The "3 could be 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1, and the "200" could be 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.
04/07/2013 08:26 * — alpeia2
Ok to prove what I am saying about black vs white files size make an all black image and save it as a uncompressed tiff. Then make a all white image and also save it as an uncompressed tiff. Now look at the file sizes of each picture, note the black one is smaller in size then the white one.

Also note that the only time this wouldn`t be the case if the images format is saved as a binary file, in which case as you state each picture would be the same size since it`s a formatted file.
04/07/2013 09:30 * — admin
I believe TIFF is a binary format.
For uncompressed (binary) formats, particular colour values would have no impact on the size, assuming same dimensions, colour depth and other metadata.

I can conceptually see a pure white image being larger than a pure black image in a compressed format, but the difference wouldn't be more than a few bytes at most. I also doubt this applies to most compressed formats either.

Otherwise, if you're referring to some ASCII format of pixel values, then I suppose you'd be correct, but nothing in practice really uses that.

But if you do have example files of uncompressed images of different colour yielding different file sizes, I'm interested to see it. I just tried your scenario and I got identical file sizes.
04/07/2013 10:21 — Anonymous
1. Uncompressed = binary.  In binary, each 8-bit color is an 8-digit "word".  The effects you describe are therefore theoretically impossible.  Admin's inability to replicate suggest you've got a buggy local TIFF implementation if you've found otherwise.
2. If the effect you describe were possible in compression schemes (I can't see it, even if admin can) the effect would be teeny-tiny.  Dust on the scales.  Color changes, not color are what drive up the file size on encodes.
3. Commie is evil!  --Maybe not true.  I just thought that would provide some closure for us all.

Back to the worst anime season ever...
04/07/2013 10:24 — Anonymous
(8-bit color within each channel, that is.  So a 24 digit "word" in a 3 channel environment, plus the usual)
04/07/2013 09:18 — Anonymous
Color doesn't contribute to the file size.

a)Noise (dithering, grain or whatever they can add to cover the banding)
b)Fast motion moments (no reference between frames)/To many new scenes (in animes you can see slideshows for mor than 30secs..) that is why openings are huge
c)bloat - low CRF values
L 03/07/2013 17:32 — Tibb
04/07/2013 10:27 — bakabeta
hey tibb do you have oreimo season 1 episodes???
04/07/2013 10:47 — Yogicat
Nyahaha! #FelineYogi@irc.rizon.net
Do you want HorribleSubs's CR rip for that?
04/07/2013 11:07 — bakabeta
i want 480p720p,1080p
can you give me tusfiles download link for each of them for season one????
04/07/2013 17:03 — Tibb
Did HS even release Season 01?
05/07/2013 01:55 * — bakabeta
i dont know i just want season one episodes if you have!!!!
03/07/2013 18:57 — Nighthawk
video > fixed size/bitrate > shit
03/07/2013 19:11 * — bakabeta
correction plz........holy shit!!!!!!!!
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